Saturday, February 19, 2011

AMORC in the 50's was referring students to the Golden Dawn?

Reviewing the monographs I have received in the 70's (in Portuguese) I found a paragraph written by HSL (probably in the 40's since the Portuguese translation in the 50's have not been updated) that, in my point of view, he is referring AMORC "advanced" students to seek further advancement in the Order of the Golden Dawn. The referral is located in the 11 Temple Degree, Mon. 9, from page 1 to 2. It is contained in the heading entitled "Alchemical Symbolism"; this session talks about the Dark Night of the Soul. It is the third paragraph in that section.   

Text in Portuguese published by the Grand Lodge of Brazil (70's)

"Segundo alguns escritos misticos, parece que houve toda uma organizacao conhecida como a Ordem do Aureo Alvorecer, as vezes citada por suas iniciais. Supoe-se que isto seja referencia ao mais alto desenvolvimento na fraternidade Rosacruz. (...) e' muitas vezes dito que somente os Membros da Ordem ou Fraternidade do Aureo Alvorecer conhecem o verdadeiro trabalho dos Rosacruzes. Alem disso, alguns escritos declaram que a verdadeira fraternidade dos Rosacruzes so' poderia ser encontrada nessa Ordem do Aureo Alvorecer."

My translation back to English

"According to some mystical writings, it seems there was an entire organization known as the Order of the Golden Dawn, as often quoted by his initials. It is assumed that this reference is the highest development in the Rosicrucian brotherhood. (...) and often said that only Members of the Order or Fraternity of the Golden Dawn know the real work of the Rosicrucians. Moreover, some writings declare that the true brotherhood of Rosicrucians could only be found in this Order of the Golden Dawn."

Smurf ( also found similar references:

I too would have received this monograph in the 70's.

"In some mystical writings, it would appear as though there was an entirely separate organization known as the Order of the Golden Dawn, sometimes referred to as the G.D. This is supposed to refer to the highest development in the Rosicrucian fraternity."

Frater Garard ( also found:

"I have the same thing in my French mono. 11 temple degree no. 9 page 2."

However, comparing that text in more recent monographs, related to the same degree, I noticed that the contents has been changed and the references to the "Order of the Golden Dawn" or its initials "G.D." have been removed.

Different points of view

Some fraters that replayed my posts seemed surprised or others a bit ungry about such referral, saying that HLS would never say something like that because he believes that AMORC was the TRUE Rosicrucian Order. Others said that the referral was a "misinterpretation" since the lesson talks about the Dark Night of the Soul and the "Golden Dawn" is not another order, but a state of being after the DNS, the illumination.

Frater André Klynstra ( replayed:

"I don't believe for a second that HSL was referring to the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn (1888 - 1903) when he was talking about Golden Dawn or that he recommended that Order to AMORC members, which b.t.w. was already dissolved when he wrote this monograph. He was totally convinced that AMORC was the only and true R.C. Order."

My answers

I wouldn't be so sure about what HSL believed. Actually he seemed to be very open mind about related mystery schools as you can see from his diverse affiliations through the F.U.D.O.S.I. and others. He also published his O.T.O. certificate in the Rosicrucian manual.

Also the original H.O.G.D. & A.O. didn't die in 1903, it continued to have active temples until the 40's and even later in New Zealand until 70's. Not to mention other less known temples in Russia, Austria, German, Switzerland, etc which had Adepts who helped to re-started new G.D. wave of modern temples. So the G.D. was very much alive when HLS wrote those teachings in our monographs. He knew that other mystery schools were more advanced than AMORC, and that AMORC was not the ONLY TRUE Rosicrucian order. Have a look at your 10T, 11T and 12T degree's Aditums and Initiations. That is were HLS introduced initiations and teachings from various mystery schools, like doors for the advanced student.

Do you mind to check again if your monographs have any match with the referred section above? Could you pass to me the original English text for this paragraph?

My hypothesis

Let's consider the time HSL wrote that monograph. May be he was very conscious that AMORC was not designed to supply its students with the level of mystical and magical knowledge offered by the G.D. The AMORC history tells us his involvement with the F.U.D.O.S.I. at that time, his close contact with so many other Rosicrucian societies/schools, and the immediate effect of the Golden Dawn teachings had in the Western Esoteric groups. He may be tough of a possibility of further collaboration between the schools (AMORC and HOGD/AO) as we can observe in other movements, such as the Martinism which adopted the Kabalistic Order of the Rosicross as its 4th degree since that school showed advanced studies in Cabala, topic related to the Martinist studies.

In my opinion, after more than 40 years of AMORC studies, is that HSL didn't use "Order" as a replacement for a state of being. He did not mistake the mentioned initials of the "G.D.". He knew very well about the HOGD. I have confirmation from other jurisdiction, like the Portuguese and Canadian (French), that this is the exactly text of the monographs. What is happening is that after the 70's AMORC has been removing progressively those references in the new revisions, may be because is an embarrassment to the actual administration who have a very different vision. Nowadays AMORC see other similar mystery schools as competitors for world audience, not as partners in the Great Work.

May be HSL had other vision for AMORC...

Later Additions to the post:

Posted by: "Morgan Drake Eckstein" Sat Feb 19, 2011 7:27 pm (PST)

I would float the suggestion that starting in 1937 that one no longer needed to seek entry into the Golden Dawn to study the material of the Golden Dawn, thanks to the fact the Regardie started to publish the material of the Order. I would be surprised if HSL did not own a complete set of the Regardie volumes.

Now, is that a reasonbable assumption or am I overlooking something?
My answer plus some after thoughts:

Hypotesis One: As you may know, reading Regardie (what I am sure HSL did it) is really not enough to achieve the G.D. highest purpose, or to contact your HGA (or Higher Self), and in my opinion that's was also the main objective of HSL higher teachings passed on the AMORC higher degrees. HSL mindset was targeting a full guidance in such delicate path of self-realization and I am sure he will not relay on published literature, which btw doesn't cover the A.C. in full, since Regardie only reach the 5=6 Adeptus Minor grade (in the Stella Matutina, not in the HOGD/AO).

Because in that monograph HSL was talking about the Dark Night of the Soul and the following state of Illumination or the golden dawn, he knew that was necessary for the student to engage themselves in a full Order study to achieve that further state of realization, which such course of study AMORC wasn't fully prepared to support.

To support my conclusion, just compare the AMORC and the HOGD/AO curriculum and you will agree with me.

AMORC curriculum: (full curriculum)

HOGD/AO Curriculum: (an example of it, I am working on a better one)

Hipothesis Two: (Which may work in conjuntion with Hipostesis One) HSL may also new that an organized HOGD/AO wasn't existing anymore at that time (1940-50), that is why he said that no visible Order can be found. However, he also knew that the Order initiated several Adepts and that they were arround and the possibility of study with one of them on a one-to-one (Master - Disciple) basis still was a possibility, and that's why he included the referred clue in the monongraphs. May be he was not actually "referring" his students to the Golden Dawn, but only point out another possibility of mystical/magical development for those who dare.

I would like to open a discussion regarding the concept of an Adept and its required preparation in an esoteric school settings like the Rosicrucian orders, not only AMORC but other Rosicrucian schools or orders as well

Note: This is not a work of fiction but a deep research into the subject supported by many years of study and practices and directed to sincere students of the Rosicrucian Traditions. 

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